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Please follow the "Timeline" topic in "Announcement". Especially the historical characters! - Anne Boleyn
January 1533 - Henry & Anne Boleyn marry in a secret ceremony
March 1533 - Thomas Cranmer is appointed Archbishop of Canterbury.
May 1533 - Archbishop Thomas Cranmer declares the marriage of King Henry VIII and Queen Katherine of Aragon to be invalid
May 1533 - Thomas Cranmer validates King Henry VIII& Anne Boleyn's marriage
June 1533 - Coronation of Anne Boleyn
Summer 1533 - Sir Thomas Cromwell, Earl of Essex begins an investigation into the activities of Sir Thomas More
June 1533 - Parliament extinguishes Papal authority in England.
June 1533 - Mary Tudor, younger sister of Henry VIII, dies at Westhorpe, Suffolk.
July 1533 - It is reported that Thomas Howard, 3rd Duke of Norfolk and George Boleyn, caught up with the French court. While they were there both Henry Howard, Earl of Surrey and Henry Fitzroy, Duke of Richmond became violently sick, at the same time. Richmond was so ill, that for a while, it was feared he might die.
July 1533 - Pope Clement VII excommunicates King Henry VIII & his advisers (including Thomas Cranmer)
JSeptember 1533 - Anne Boleyn gives birth to Princess Elizabeth Tudor
November 1533 - Henry Fitzroy, Henry VIII's illegitimate son, marries Mary Howard (daughter of Thomas Howard, 3rd Duke of Norfolk) Anne Boleyn is said to have worked for this pairing.

 

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Thomas Howard
Cardinal John Fisher
Margaret of Austria
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Margaret Wyatt
Thomas More
Royce Westmoreland
Geoffrey Lonshord
Lorenzo Campeggio
Emilie De Fontanay
Anthony Knivert
Cardinal Thomas Wolsey
Charles Brandon
Henry VIII of England
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Anthony Knivert
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PostSubject: Re: Queen's Trial   Queen's Trial - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeTue Mar 06, 2012 8:10 am

I listened to his majesty's speech and then looked at the Queen. Henry was a very persistent man and was going to get what he wanted no matter what. I sat in my chair anxiously awaiting what was to happen next. I then saw Margaret in the stands and smiled briefly, as she looked so very beautiful.
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Emilie De Fontanay
Countess of Anjou
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PostSubject: Re: Queen's Trial   Queen's Trial - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeTue Mar 06, 2012 1:43 pm

Emilie listen with interest to the king's speach, noticing he seem sincerely trust that if Catherine hadn't give him a alive son it's because she was his sister in law, herself find very strange that this marriage has been allowed by the Pope at first, especially since she is spectical about the fact that nothing would had happen Catherine and her first husband.
On the other hand, as a protestant with cartesian ideas, she don't believe that if that they hadn't a alive son, it's because of the an initial great sin in their marriage that could have provoke God's anger even if Catherine's previous marriage has been consummat.
She personally think rather that it's attributable to a lack of fertility of Catherine and to some other natural and concrete problem not yet knowed by the scientists and physicians that have cause them to have fragile children that aren't viables, after all it happen to many couples that are fully legitime and hadn't any link of kinship, but people attribuate to a God's punishement by superstition and lack of knowledges.
But she considerate that the king should be free to divorce of his wife and take a new wife of his choice rather than to have to ask for the Pope's allowance and to be forced to remain married until his death to a woman whom he don't love anymore if the Pope refuse and it's would mean that he couldn't hope to ever have any another child and so no any male heir nor to marry the woman who he love since many years.
Anyway the king seem determined to obtain an annulement or a divorce and will certainly get it, even if he have to break with the Pope if he refuse, and she personnally hope that he will do so, because this way he will take Anne Boleyn as wife, who is a friend of her, have the same lutherian ideas as her and, who is a true english lady who will serve her country interests and who seem rather favourable to France instead of Spain at the contrary of Catherine who had always remain above all the princess of spain who serve her birth country's interests before England's interests.
She oberserve attentively people's reaction, of course Boleyn, Norfolk and Suffolk seem contents and on the king's side, while More and the queen Margaret are hostile and support Catherine and people who attend it like her seem rather to have divised opinions.

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Katherine of Aragon
Dowager Princess of Wales
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PostSubject: Re: Queen's Trial   Queen's Trial - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeTue Mar 06, 2012 7:09 pm

After my husband's statement, I am called upon to speak. I look in contempt at Wolsey, and loving and long at Henry, my husband.Sslowly I rise, walking over to Henry, and fall to my feet
"My lord.."
I began, as he tried to pull me to my feet "Sir.." I cry.
"I beseech you, for all the love that has been between us, let me have justice and right. Give me some petty and compassion. For I am a poor woman and a stranger, born out of your dominion. I have no friends here, and little council. I flee to you as head of justice in this realm. I call God and all the world as my witness, that to you I have been a true, humble and obedient wife. Ever comfortable to your will and pleasure. I have loved all those you have loved, whether I have had cause to or not, whether they have been my friends or enemies. But by me you have had many children, though it has please God to call them from this world. But you had me at first, I take God as my judge.."
I shout, looking around
"I was a true maid, without touch from man. Whether it be true or not ...I put it to you and your conscience.."
I rise looking at him, bow low and walk out slowly. Lizzie and my other ladies following close behind. I hear them calling for me to enter the court, but I don't. "This court has no authority over this matter!" The doors are opened, and once again I can hear the good english people cheering me and calling me. I am their Queen, and they love me. And most of all, I love them...

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Cardinal Thomas Wolsey
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PostSubject: Re: Queen's Trial   Queen's Trial - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeTue Mar 06, 2012 8:11 pm

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Wolsey had explained precisely cumbersome that Katherine challenged the jurisdiction and the integrity of the court and that she was mistaken. He and Campeggio had full authority of the pope to judge the matter in his behalf so they rejected her protest and continued the court as was commanded by the pope himself.

After he had given Katherine the word, he sat back and saw her rising, but to his dismay she did not focus to the jury. Instead she had only eyes for Henry and suddenly walked to him and fell at his feet. Wolsey listened with growing annoyance and excitement at her words and hid his head behind his hands, shaking his head. A personal appeal on his sense, apparantly only to Henry, but clearly meant for everyone!
It took a while before he noticed she was leaving the court and while the court usher called her back, Wolsey turned to Campeggio, desperately speaking.

'She must return! She intentionally offends the court! We must call her back right now!'
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Henry VIII of England
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PostSubject: Re: Queen's Trial   Queen's Trial - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeTue Mar 06, 2012 9:29 pm

As Henry saw Katherine walking towards him, he opened his eyes wide by surprise. He tried to make her stand up as she fell on her knees, but it was unuseful. So he kept on listening silently her words. Every sinlge word who came out from her mouth wounded him deeply. His eyes were lost in empty air, almost red by efforts to refrain tears. But he couldn't avoid turning his eyes to her again, as she talked about her virginity and their wedding night. He didn't expect she could use such weapon against him. Exhausted, he took a deep breath and watched her living Hall silently...

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Thomas Cromwell
Earl of Essex
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PostSubject: Re: Queen's Trial   Queen's Trial - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeTue Mar 06, 2012 9:48 pm

Thomas was sitting quietly watching reactions of all people sitting around, listening to the speech of the King, then the Queen fallowing him. Everything happened so fast, both of them defended their consciences. He felt shivers going through his body; as the Queen left the hall he moved his gaze onto Wolsey. He was sitting there, pale and scared, he did not know what to do; Cromwell felt sorry for him. He was not able to imagine how Wolsey was feeling right then. And the king - what steps will he take after the unsuccessful trial...
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Thomas Boleyn
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PostSubject: Re: Queen's Trial   Queen's Trial - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeTue Mar 06, 2012 10:20 pm

Thomas felt nervous and stressed, but he also felt note of excitement. Especially after Norfolk pointed out the only one person defending the Queen. He smiled weakly.
'Indeed. We will celebrate our success very soon... Anne will be delighted.'
Added looking at Wolsey and the king. His smile became wide and proud. Then his face became serious, it looked flatly and he was quiet as never before. He was listening intently to the king's speech and also noded approvingly as Norfolk praised Henry. Indeed, he spoke frankly. Thomas kept smiling weakly, but did not say a word. He felt tension inside of him and he was impatiently awaiting response of the Queen. Then she started speaking. He knew from the first sentence that she has prepared herself very well. His smile quickly disappeared. He hoped the king will find a better response, that he will fight for his future with his beloved Anne. But he did not. The Queen left the church and Thomas felt anger rising inside of him. He glanced at Norfolk and added quietly:
'As you can see, we will not celebrate.'
Sissed. He felt annoyed... But... It's an ill wind that blows nobody good. At least Wolsey will suffer the consequences faster than Boleyn thought.
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Margaret of Austria
Duchess of Savoy
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PostSubject: Re: Queen's Trial   Queen's Trial - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeWed Mar 07, 2012 9:23 pm

Margaret sat upright and watched her sister-in-law with growing admirence making her statement against the king and then just walking out of the court, without paying attention to the uproar she caused.
Wooow... she said and she could not suppress a laugh on her face as Katherine kept walking with her head up, even though they tried to call her back.

When she stepped outside the clapping and supportive exclaims of the people were clearly audible, Margaret turned to Thomas More again, her eyes glistened.
Whatever happens next... she has won this battle, my friend! she spoke triumphantly.
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Thomas More
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PostSubject: Re: Queen's Trial   Queen's Trial - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeWed Mar 07, 2012 9:56 pm

Thomas stood up like everyone while Katherine was walking away. Once he sat again, he turned to Margaret, nodding slowly

Maybe she won a battle, my dear. But let's hope...that she could win the war...

He smiled and squeezed softly her arm

Anyway...I think audience is ended for today. Poor Fisher has not spoken yet. Then...with the Queen or without her, there will be a new audience tomorrow...

He explained whispering, holding softly her arm
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Henry VIII of England
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PostSubject: Re: Queen's Trial   Queen's Trial - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeWed Mar 07, 2012 10:09 pm

After Katherine left, Henry stood up too. He looked silently at judges and then turned towards crowd. Everyone was looking surprised at him. After that, without saying a word, he kept on walking silently towards door, to reach his wife in the adjacent room. He still didn't know if the next day, he'd have to attend Trial's new audience alone, or not...
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Charles Brandon
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PostSubject: Re: Queen's Trial   Queen's Trial - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeWed Mar 07, 2012 10:12 pm

"Once the King stood up, Charles stood up quickly too and bowed deeply as everyone in the Hall. As he raised his eyes again, he looked meaningfully at Wolsey for a little while..."
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Cardinal Thomas Wolsey
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Wolsey finally gave up persuading Campeggio to command Katherine´s return as he became aware of a sudden silence. Henry was risen and looked at him in a way that shivers ran over his back.
Slowly he rised himself and looked back at him, accepting his reproachful look in resignation and he bowed to him with his hand on his heart.
As he stood upright again, the king had disappeared and while he looked around the audience, he could only see his three sworn enemies, enjoying his defeat and without paying attention to Campeggio or Fisher, he left the hall with quick steps.


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Cardinal John Fisher
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PostSubject: Re: Queen's Trial   Queen's Trial - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeThu Mar 08, 2012 12:33 am

Fisher sat motionless on his place, secretly smiling.
Katherine had done a great job and impressed everyone with her statement and appearance.
He noticed the turmoil with calm acceptance, stood up as Katherine left the hall and bowed slightly as Henry also left. He looked at the judges and noticed an excited Wolsey also leaving. He waited for everyone to leave the hall before he left himself, knowing very well that the trial only had started, but the first victory was for Katherine and he was determined to keep the victory on her side during the drop sessions.
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PostSubject: Re: Queen's Trial   Queen's Trial - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeThu Mar 08, 2012 7:31 pm

Shocked that the queen have make this scene to the king and leave the trial that he ordered, she sigh and leave the room.
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Henry VIII of England
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PostSubject: Re: Queen's Trial   Queen's Trial - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeMon Mar 12, 2012 9:42 pm

The day after, Henry walked into Hall again. He reached fastly his throne and sat on it. It was an important audience that day. A witness from Katherine's household, when she still was Princess of Wales, was invited to talk in front of judges. But Katherine was no there. He looked at her empty throne. Then turned his eyes towards Wolsey and nodded with his head, giving him permission to start

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Charles Brandon
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PostSubject: Re: Queen's Trial   Queen's Trial - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeMon Mar 12, 2012 9:49 pm

"Charles stood up and bowed respectfully at the King, like everyone. Once he sat down again, he glanced teasingly at Thomas Boleyn and Norfolk, sat next to him. He was really curious to hear details about Katherine's wedding night with Prince Arthur..."
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PostSubject: Re: Queen's Trial   Queen's Trial - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeTue Mar 13, 2012 7:06 pm

Cromwell approached the church and sat down near Charles Brandon and Duke of Norfolk right after he bowed at His Majesty entering the aisle. He was sitting there quietly and staring at the king, then at Wolsey waiting for the begining...
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PostSubject: Re: Queen's Trial   Queen's Trial - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeTue Mar 13, 2012 8:13 pm

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Wolsey sat behind the table again. Campeggio had taken a seat before him to examine the witnesses and while Wolsey gazed through the hall, he looked with questioning eyes at Fisher, who shook no, the queen will not come. He sighed and opened the trial.

'My Excellencies, we continue the trial without queen Katherine, who is declared recalcitrant. We will determine whether or not her first marriage with Prince Arthur was consummated by carnal knowledge.
We call as a witness: Sir Anthony Willoughby!'
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PostSubject: Re: Queen's Trial   Queen's Trial - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeTue Mar 13, 2012 8:55 pm

Emilie enter the room discreetly as the king is yet sat on the throne before the queen's empty throne, her friend Wolsey introducing the first witness, she courtsey and join fastly a empty place, interested to hear and see what will happen.
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PostSubject: Re: Queen's Trial   Queen's Trial - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeTue Mar 13, 2012 9:13 pm

As Wolsey announced the witness, Geoffrey walked towards the door and waited for him to enter. Once guards let him coming inside, he escorted sir Anthony until the chair in front of judges. He kept on standing silently next to sir Anthony once he sat down

Sir Anthony Willoughby: "Your Eminences..."

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PostSubject: Re: Queen's Trial   Queen's Trial - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeTue Mar 13, 2012 9:39 pm

Edward quietly entered the room, bowing respectfully before The King and The Cardinal Wolsey. He had not seen him for a long time and he looked troubled-but of course this was understandable. He then took a seat silently by the other Gentlemen of The Privy Council.
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"Charles looked curiously at the man sat in front of Cardinals. He was wondering if he was related with Catherine, his pupil..."
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PostSubject: Re: Queen's Trial   Queen's Trial - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeTue Mar 20, 2012 7:44 pm

Lorenzo looks at Anthony

"Sir Anthony, you were in royal couple's following during their wedding night, right? You accompanied them until their chambers. What the Prince said to you the next mornig?"
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PostSubject: Re: Queen's Trial   Queen's Trial - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeTue Mar 20, 2012 10:21 pm

Geoffrey noticed that sir Anthony put an amused smile on his face as Cardinal Campeggio spoke. But he remained serious, still standing next to him

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Sir Anthony Willoughby: "Yes..I was with them that night. The next day, I asked to Prince Arthur if he succeded in doing his duty. And he answered": "Of course! Last night I was in the middle of Spain!"

People in the Hall started to laugh

Sir Anthony Willoughby: "And later, he added": "It's a very good hobby having a wife!"

After his last sentence, Geoffrey heard people laughing more
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PostSubject: Re: Queen's Trial   Queen's Trial - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeTue Mar 20, 2012 10:52 pm

Henry rolled his eyes after such words, wondering if such witness could be valid. But he couldn't laugh. He felt too nervous and anxious...

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